Just for the heck of it...

[hatman]

Ask me anything, and you will get an answer. Ask about me, ask about something you think I might know, ask... anything. Seriously or otherwise. Whatever you want. You will get an answer. In most cases, that answer will have something to do with the question. In some cases, it may even make sense! (I'll do my best, anyway. Depending on the question.)

You can ask me directly, or, if you've got a quarter handy, you can ask my buddy...

Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

http://www.google.com

testing anonymous?

Re: OT - comment test

[(Anonymous)]

testing html anonymous links (http://www.google.com)

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[stellar-dust.myopenid.com (from livejournal.com)]

oooooh-kay then.

I wonder if it could be an issue on IJ's end?

*test*

*fails*

Nope, not a problem with IJ.

(sorry to spam your post.)

(How does OpenID work? can by my question for your meme. *g*)

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[pgwfolc.livejournal.com]

Curiouser and curiouser.

(The funny thing is that OID was created by LJ...)

No need to apologize for spamming. I'm interested and would like to pin this down, too.

And... the way it processed that anonymous link is interesting. I wonder if there's a new LJ OID link protocol which is screwing things up. I also wonder why it would have done it to one link but not the other.

As for how it works... That's far out of my specialty. I'm tempted to let Swami Ghumbali field this one.

*goes off to do research*

Re: OT - comment test

[pgwfolc.livejournal.com]

Okay, done some looking, and no one really seems to want to answer the question of just how it works. Or, if they do, that answer got lost in a sea of technobabble which, frankly, is over my head. There are mentions of different protocals and such, newer versions...

But there's also an article which says this:

* Anybody can use their own technical innovations within the OpenID framework, even if they replicate, or compete, with the OpenID specifications themselves.

This latter points is worth repeating: if tomorrow, for example, you decide you don't like the Diffie-Hellman cryptographic key exchange at the root of OpenID authentication, you can develop your own way of authenticating, and deploy it within the OpenID framework. If you have an idea for a new identity-related service that nobody else ever thought of, you can deploy it into the OpenID framework as soon as your code is ready. This radical decentralization on all levels of the stack, both technically and organizationally, is a very strong catalyst for attracting innovators and their innovations. This makes OpenID a superior choice for identity-related innovation.

Which, if I'm reading it, means that it works the way the OID provider in question chooses to make it work.

I think, basically... You have a server which acts as an "identity provider." The URL of that provider is included in the sign-on. The site where you're trying to use OID contacts the provider using the protocol of choice, and the provider verifies that you are logged in with that ID for the current browser session.

The specifics, like I said, seem to vary... and are also more technical than I can really keep up with.

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[http://openid.aol.com/pgwfolc (from livejournal.com)]

Hmm. I was all set to blame LJ's handling of OID-posted URLs, but then I just reposted the same links using OID (I figured I could delete the comments through my LJ inbox if need be). I tried them both as simple pasted URLs and hyperlinked URLs. It all worked fine. You can see the comments above, and the entry still loads.

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[http://openid.aol.com/pgwfolc (from livejournal.com)]

PS Sorry to spam you now, but... I've gotten comment reply notification emails for all of these, even though I use the same address for AIM and this LJ. And the ones above were posted as replies to myself.

Meantime, I tried to use Yahoo as my OID, and it wouldn't let me. Yahoo says that LJ's OID version is too old, and not backwards-compatible with Yahoo's v 2.0.

Re: OT - comment test

[pgwfolc.livejournal.com]

Oh, wait. NM. My LJ email is at netscape.net, but AOL's OID is probably using at aim.com. The two addresses are functionally the same, but LJ has no way to know that.

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[stellar-dust.livejournal.com]

Oh hey, I didn't have comment emails set up for my myopenid account, so I didn't see all this until now. Thanks for testing all this!

So. Weird. I'll try posting another link from openID in a second.

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[stellar-dust.insanejournal.com (from livejournal.com)]

funny picture is funny! (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/20/funny-pictures-dats-mai-netwurk/)

Re: OT - comment test

[stellar-dust.insanejournal.com (from livejournal.com)]

innnnnteresting.

it looks like I can post links if I'm logged in as the OID - but not if I'm logged into my LJ and choose the post-as-OID-but-don't-log-in option in the comment form.

Strange. I don't think that should happen, and it's got to be an LJ problem.

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[stellar-dust.insanejournal.com (from livejournal.com)]

Ok, so what if I'm stellar_dust, choose OpenID, and DO choose to re-login as the OID?

funny picture is still funny! (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/20/funny-pictures-dats-mai-netwurk/)

ooh, what if I post the picture??

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[stellar-dust.livejournal.com]

So that worked.

the problem's not choosing to log in to the OID, I guess.

that could get annoying!

oh, just for the heck of it .. (http://www.google.com)

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[stellar-dust.insanejournal.com (from livejournal.com)]

So, what if I'm not logged in at all and post a comment as IOD without logging in?

this blog rocks. (http://io9.com/)

Re: OT - comment test

[stellar-dust.livejournal.com]

Just tried one last time to be sure, and yep, it looks like that's it - I can't post a link as an openID *while* logged in to my LJ.

Probably the two different logins are running into each other somehow during the captcha verification. Or something.

It's probably a bug ... probably should report it somewhere.

I wonder if it does the same on other platforms? *makes mental note to test this on IJ later*

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[pgwfolc.livejournal.com]

Glad to help, glad to learn. And yes, that is a funny picture.

What's also funny (but in a different way) is that I could see the picture just fine in the comment notification email, but when I came here, it showed up as a strange little icon which seems confusing at first but is apparently intended to say "click here to view a picture in another window." Except, that when I click it, I see the picture in this window (possibly because of the way I have FF set up to handle links).

Looks like another safety measure. Just as they won't let you post actual clickable links, they won't let you directly post pictures. If you're not a registered LJ user, they just don't trust you.

Do let me know how the other tests work out. You can try blogger.com, too, if you know anyone there. They just recently started accepting OIDs.

And... time to get moving. Strike in 2 hours!