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Happened upon a link to an interview with Lynda Carter.
(Yes, the subject line is an actual quote from the Wonder Woman theme song.)
Seems some people have (inexplicably) been comparing Sarah Palin to Wonder Woman. Here's what Lynda had to say about that:
(Yes, the subject line is an actual quote from the Wonder Woman theme song.)
Seems some people have (inexplicably) been comparing Sarah Palin to Wonder Woman. Here's what Lynda had to say about that:
Okay, last question. I'm sure you've seen all the comparisons in the media and among Republicans of Sarah Palin to Wonder Woman. How do you feel about that?
Don’t get me started. She’s the anti-Wonder Woman. She’s judgmental and dictatorial, telling people how they’ve got to live their lives. And a superior religious self-righteousness ... that’s just not what Wonder Woman is about. Hillary Clinton is a lot more like Wonder Woman than Mrs. Palin. She did it all, didn’t she?
No one has the right to dictate, particularly in this country, to force your own personal views upon the populace — religious views. I think that is suppressive, oppressive, and anti-American. We are the loyal opposition. That’s the whole point of this country: freedom of speech, personal rights, personal freedom. Nor would Wonder Woman be the person to tell people how to live their lives. Worry about your own life! Worry about your own family! Don't be telling me what I want to do with mine.
I like John McCain. But this woman — it's anathema to me what she stands for. I think America should be very afraid. Very afraid. Separation of church and state is the one thing the creators of the Constitution did agree on — that it wasn’t to be a religious government. People should feel free to speak their minds about religion but not dictate it or put it into law.
What I don’t understand, honestly, is how anyone can even begin to say they know the mind of God. Who do they think they are? I think that’s ridiculous. I know what God is in my life. Now I am sure that she’s not all just that. But it’s enough to me. It’s enough for me to have a visceral reaction. And it makes me mad.
People need to speak up. Doesn’t mean that I’m godless. Doesn’t mean that I am a murderer. What I hate is this demonization of everybody but one position. You’re un-American because you’re against the war. It’s such bullshit. Fear. It’s really such a finite way of thinking about God to think that your measley little mind can know the mind of God. It’s a very little God that way. I think that God’s bigger. I don’t presume to know his mind. Or her mind.
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And her ideas are such a mix of conservative and liberal that I was getting all sorts of lost! Yay for being middle-of-the-road-and-completely-confusing (like me)! :D
I don't take a stance behind any political candidate, so I'm not taking sides. lol I hope that's fairly obvious, even though it probably isn't. But yeah.
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Not sure what you mean by liberal and conservative mixture, though. What's conservative other than possibly her statement that she likes McCain? It's not clear to me what she means by that, BTW. "I like him" doesn't necessarily mean that she'd vote for him.
I dunno. I just found it interesting. I hadn't even heard that people were comparing Palin to Wonder Woman.
Personally, I don't put much stock in celebrity endorsements. There are much better reasons to cast your vote. I just thought I'd share. It's not every day you hear from a superhero. ;)
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The line that sounded especially conservative to me was: "Nor would Wonder Woman be the person to tell people how to live their lives. Worry about your own life! Worry about your own family!"
I think that's what made me think conservative. The rest I viewed as mostly liberal. It just seemed like a huge mix, which is mostly what politics seems to be - a big mix of a lot of bumbling people who might have great ideas but can't possibly make them work in this place we call a world.
But that's just my way of taking things and my opinion (which doesn't amount to much, but I'm stating it because the liberals say I can). ;)
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I do think it's interesting, though, that you see that statement as conservative. To me, conservatives in America these days seem more likely to be the ones to impose their views on others. The so-called "values voters" who want to outlaw gay marriage and such. Who want, in short, for their values to become law. I see liberals as being more accepting, as looking to protect individual rights. To let people live their lives as they choose.
Except the thing is that laws, by their very nature, tell people how to live their lives. They define what our society does and does not find acceptable, safe, moral, necessary, etc. When you come down to it, any law that you disagree with is going to feel like one that imposes on your way of life.
As for politics... it's a mess. It's power and self-interest taking priority over how things should be. But it does work sometimes. If the people in power can rise above politics to make things work. We've gotten this far with it, anyway. And the nice thing about our system is that if we start to go in a bad direction, we periodically get an opportunity for change. But always with those who disagree ready to speak up and hold things back. If it keeps us from making the progress we'd like, well, it also keeps us from going too far in the wrong direction. Checks and balances. Moderation. In a way, the imperfections are built into the system precisely because we're imperfect, and having brakes protects us from our mistakes. (Which is one of the things that scares me the most about the last 8 years... the way the brakes failed and were damaged. I'm hoping, whatever happens with the election, that we can fix that much.)
Anyway... sorry to ramble at you. Hope at least some of that was interesting. If not, feel free to ignore. :)
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I don't like the idea of pushing my "values" on someone else. What someone wants to do with their life, let them do it. But I also don't like someone telling me what to do. Politicians try to argue over the morality of certain issues like abortion and gay marriage, and when it comes down to it, whatever higher power you believe in (if you believe in one) is going to be the judge of that. Not us. Not people. If you judge someone, sure as hell - they're gonna judge you, too.
If that sounds indifferent to how society runs, it's probably because it is. lol
The reason I saw that statement as conservative is mostly in regards to taking care of other people. Seems to me that conservatives like the idea of, "Hey, I made this money. So it's mine, and I'll use it to take care of me and not you." So things like welfare and other domestic programs to help the poor and homeless and jobless or whatever tend to fall down a little because of that attitude. So that's why I saw "Take care of yourself. Worry about your own family..." as conservative. Worry about yourself. You're all that matters. What this other person is doing - eh, who cares. They can fend for themselves.
Yes, it's liberal, too, in the idea that you don't want to impose your personal views upon someone else. So it's just a bit of both, now that I think about it.
And I'm done now. lol :) I'm sorry for rambling, too, or if I have offended, I do apologize. But I'm done talking politics as I've now made myself ill. ;) hehe
Hey! The sun is shining! I will go fly a kite...actually, I'll head off to work, but still...I can dream. :D
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Personally, I like a good debate. And I like learning about my friends. I respect your right to a dissenting opinion, to having your own views. Besides, life would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything. And, really, I hate the way things have become so divisive lately.
So, no. No need to apologize. I'm not easy to offend, and nothing you've said has struck me as even potentially offensive.
That said... if you want to drop the subject, I'll drop it. Hope you're having a good weekend. :)
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I think I just get fired up about politics in general because I'm so irritated with how politicians treat the system. The system itself is a smart idea, but there are people who mistreat and abuse that system. I'm tired of the ads on TV where our candidates pull out dirt against each other...how is this supposed to help me pick the best person for the job when they're fighting like petty little teenagers? Elections for highschool class president aren't even this dirty.
So - if anything - the only "person" who has stepped on my toes are our political candidates on both sides, on all levels, in any form of government.
I'm glad I didn't offend you. *whew* I always try to avoid politics and debates as I'm never entirely certain if I'll tick people off or say something incorrect. I know I'm not particularly intelligent in this area, so sometimes it's best to say nothing at all, I suppose. lol
But I was interested in the wordy Wonder Woman quote, and it baffled me, so I had to comment. ;) hehe
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But yeah... there's been a lot of negativity, even from these two, both of whom have expressed feelings similar to yours. Problem is that negative ads are an effective tool. Too effective to leave unused with a presidential candidacy at stake. What's even worse these days are the internet smear campaigns, using the easy flow of viral information to spread rumors with little or no basis in fact.
Problem is, I don't see a good way to stop any of that. You can't exactly outlaw attack ads. And internet rumors are impossible to control. To this day, people believe that you swallow spiders in your sleep, a "fact" which was created for an experiment designed specifically to show how readily people will believe the most ridiculous things.
Anyway, there's wisdom in knowing when to say nothing. (It's an art I've yet to master...) All the same, don't underestimate yourself or your intelligence. Besides, the only way to improve is to go out and learn. To find out more about the issues and the workings of the system and all. To hone your ideas and views by debating them.
I'll admit that it's a topic that people can be very touchy about. (With good reason, IMO... it's the future of our country and a question of our ideals and beliefs about the issues that affect our lives.) But it's an important subject (for the same reasons).
So... happy to talk it over. I'd enjoy it. I'll respect your views, and as long as you respect mine, there'll be no reason to be offended.
But if you'd rather not, I'll try not to be too pushy. ;)
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I think this is what Carter's referring to -- when she claimed the war in Iraq was part of God's plan. Palin has been criticized by scores of others (not just Wonder Woman!) for attempting to know what God does and doesn't want!
Anyway -- go Wonder Woman!!! :)
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I try to keep myself removed from politics, so forgive my ignorance. :)
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And yes... It was a bit scattershot and I don't agree 100%, but... go Wonder Woman! :D