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([personal profile] hatman Aug. 4th, 2008 01:57 pm)
That was a fun weekend!

[livejournal.com profile] laramoon came over. We went to see The Dark Knight in IMAX. Thoughts on that below, but... it rocked. The movie rocked. Seeing it in IMAX with total visual and audio immersion rocked. It just rocked.

And then we went to dinner at City Tavern, which is, IMHO, the best restaurant in Philly. It's just a few blocks from Independence Hall (which we'd walked around/through that afternoon), and it's a more or less historically accurate reconstruction of one of the main hangouts of the founding fathers (you can read about it on their website). I've had dinner there many times, but (I'm pretty sure) this was the first time I met a celebrity. Thomas Paine dropped by to introduce himself.

I recognized the name, but couldn't remember much else about him except a vague sense of "philosopher/historic figure." Still, I told him it was an honor to meet him, which made him happy. Seems a lot of people hadn't heard of him. Then he asked us why we were in town. I thought about it, but couldn't come up with a better reason than the purely honest one. I grinned up at him. "Batman!"

He stayed in character and explained that he had no idea what that was. And the conversation kind of went from there. He told us a little bit about himself, but I had no idea what to say or how to play along. I should, perhaps, have engaged him in a political debate about the current state of the constitution, but, then again, it wouldn't really have been proper dinner conversation. (And I have no idea how he'd have felt about it anyway. Philly was split 50/50 in '04, IIRC.) So I felt kind of lame, but it was still cool to meet him.

Sunday, we went to see The Met. In specific (though some of the other exhibits were pretty cool), the current special exhibition. That was half amazingly cool and half weird/disappointing. It was also pretty small. Maybe a dozen little nooks, each devoted to a different hero and hero type. So there was Flash (in this case, painted by Alex Ross in the background) and five or six mannequins in sleek, skintight costumes created by very... conceptual artists.

And then there was Spider-Man, with two of the costumes from the movies (red and black). And the red one was in this Spidey pose, crouched on a platform, resting on his fingertips and toes, his limbs in a not-quite-humanly-possible spider-like position... And it was a costume that Tobey had actually worn in the movie. Wow. The black one was wall-crawling off on the other side. And then, around them, there were five or six original and very conceptual costumes "inspired" by Spidey. A couple of them women in these weird and revealing web dresses made of very wide netting.

And so it was for the rest of the exhibit. Linda Carter's Wonder Woman costume (with cape, as seen here). Except that the mannequin was smaller and skinnier and it hung off kind of loosely. And the blue parts had gone purple. But still, it was Wonder Woman. I loved that show when I was a kid. And then, around her, five or six costumes created by artists for the exhibit which were just painful to look at. Iron Man's gleaming steel armor from the movie, and a bunch of mannequins in metallic "armored" costumes. Including one with a metal chest plate that had transparent domes over the breasts and thin metal rings to highlight where the nipples would be (placed so that they'd probably poke through the center of their respective rings).

So half of it was going "Wow! The suit from The Dark Knight (which we just saw and was totally awesome) right there, two feet from us, and hardly anyone else around!" Literally awesome. And half of it was "Ewww! What the heck is that? I it hurts to look at it! And the one next to it is even worse!"

Oh, and the last movie costume they had? Mystique. Which, as you may recall, was nothing more than body paint and appliques. (See, for example, here.) The idea in the movie was that it's how she naturally looked. (In the comics, she usually uses her shapeshifting powers to make clothes for herself, even when she's in her "natural" blue-skinned form.) She was supposed to look naked. And... in person, it's even more so. It was embarrassing to look at.

But then they also had a wall of historic comic book covers. The originals, framed in boxes on the wall. Action Comics #1, Amazing Fantasy #15, etc. First appearances of Batgirl and Catwoman and so on. That was amazing.

And then disappointing when we got past that wall, because it was the end of the exhibit. We explored the museum some more, went up to the roof garden. Gorgeous giant sculptures (they have pictures here) and a beautiful view of the city and Central Park.

Lunch at the museum, then over to Times Square and Geek Heaven (aka Midtown Comics, which I'm ashamed to say I'd only visited once before).

And that was pretty much it. A lot of things I'd done before, but it's always new when you're with someone who never has. And it was just really good to be out and about and doing stuff with an actual in-person friend.

Tiring, though. We did a lot, and I went short on sleep to do it. So, today, I'm resting up.

In other news, I just finished "If You Could See Me Now" by Cecelia Ahern. Recc'd to me by [livejournal.com profile] littlepel. It's a novel about a repressed woman and her nephew/adopted son's imaginary friend. It's fun and imaginative and hard to put down. And the author is the 26-year-old daughter of the Irish Prime Minister. She has several books out (one of which has already been made into a movie), and is one of the primary creative forces behind "Samantha Who" (TV show whose second season starts next week). And, according to the book jacket, Disney has picked up the movie rights to If You Could See Me Now. Color me impressed. Anyway... good book!

Moving on (or back) to the movie...

SPOILERS BELOW!

It rocked. I said that, but it bears repeating. The action, the flow, the feel... amazing. And waiting to see it in IMAX was totally the right call. (Go me! ;) )

Joker was... a psychopath. Brilliant. Scary. Insane, but with his own twisted yet understandable logic. A performer, an artist, out to teach the world. All brought perfectly to life by Heath Ledger. And... they never gave his origin. No name, no history (except the ones he kept making up). No identity beyond Joker. And no explanation of the white face, or the twisted, overlarge smile. No telling if there was a vat of strange chemicals or if maybe it really was just makeup, the face he chose to show the world. No exotic toxins. Everything... real. Perfect.

Harvey was done just as well. Face always half in shadow. The coin, there with him. (And that little secret about it that we shared until it was finally revealed.) The way the coin got defaced (so to speak) at the same time he did. The gruesomely realistic animation of his face.

And then Batman. He's just awesome. His movements too fast to follow, but every one planned and executed perfectly. The people around him moving wildly, yet unknowingly part of his choreographed world.

The one thing that got me about Batman, his one wrong move, was when he said to ignore Joker and focus on the mob (which was run by Sal "The Roman" Marone - perfect!). Why? Because Joker is just one man, and what could one man possibly do? Gee, I don't know. Isn't the entire point of Batman that one dedicated and talented individual can be more effective than an entire organization (such as the GCPD)?

Oh, and the voice. That was the other thing. Kevin Conroy will always be the voice of Batman to me. Firm, commanding, resonant, strong, gravely. Christian Bale does Bruce Wayne well. Best live action Bruce by far. And he's got the moves and the mood and the feel of Batman. But when Batman talks... it's this artificially raspy voice. Trying too hard to sound tough. Suddenly. Batman goes from strong and imposing to a guy in a suit putting on an act. And it's sad, because Batman is one of the few heroes who is more himself in costume than out of it.

Love the motorcycle, and the Batmobile's last words. Reminiscent of Batman Returns, but in a good way.

Except... it has guns! Okay, he only uses them to clear obstacles, but... Batman doesn't use guns. There was a fan uproar about that in 1989. They made a point of it here. He takes the guns and he breaks them and throws them away with disgust and disdain. And that was perfect. And then he goes and uses guns on the Batcycle. (I refuse to call it the Batpod. It doesn't sound right. The Batpod is what he uses to listen to music when he's using the cowl's built-in headphones but not focusing on the police scanner or a phone call. Which is never.)

Lucius Fox! He rocks! Love what they're doing with him. Love the blackmail scene even more. Awesomeness.

Gordon... he's Gordon. I love Gordon. But... he has a wife and son. And that makes me sad. Also makes me wonder about that young girl whose name and relationship we never found out. A little too young, I think, but I never got a clear look at her.

The girl is gone. The one who encouraged him to be Bruce, or at least remember what it is to be Bruce. And we saw a lot of dogs in this movie. Do I sense a cat getting ready to cross Batman's path?

Too many precious moments to recall or to name. I kept laughing at the little touches, at the awesomeness, at... wow.

The last one was really good. The science and stuff kept throwing me out of it, but still... it was really good. This one... damn near perfect. And in IMAX... wow.

From: [identity profile] laramoon.livejournal.com


No, no, no, Batman's raspy voice is awesome and sexy -- but you'd have to hear it through a fangirl's ears to understand that, so I'll forgive you. *giggles*

Thanks again for an awesome weekend!! :D
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From: [identity profile] pgwfolc.livejournal.com


Ooo, nice icon!

And lol, I don't have those ears. Which, all things considered, is a good thing. And a small price to pay for not being able to hear it that way.

Thanks to you, too! Can't believe you had to put out that much to come over, but I'm very glad you did! :)

Oh, and... was just poking around for another friend and it seems Dell no longer offers an easy XP option, but, on the Small Business site, they offer the "Transition when you're ready" option. For $99, they'll install XP and give you a handy coaster Vista downgrade CD.

Also, when we got Brainiac IV, the Small Business site offered North American based tech support as a very reasonable upgrade. (I'm hoping that doesn't mean that instead of the poorly trained techs who barely speak English from India, you get poorly trained techs who barely speak English from Mexico. Fortunately, we haven't had occasion to find out...)

And... that PS was longer than the actual message. I hate when that happens.

From: [identity profile] laramoon.livejournal.com


Can't believe you had to put out that much to come over, but I'm very glad you did! :)

Nah, it really wasn't that bad at all. Pretty much what I expected even. Was worth it. :D

Eric apparently decided to keep Vista, having now removed all the security from it... go figure.

From: [identity profile] beansideirae.livejournal.com


i enjoyed seeing batman again thro your eyes there :) i've seen it three times now and will probably go again before this week is out. it has taken over about half of the conversation at my house (dr who has the other half), and i stayed up till about 3 last night arguing the respective merits and motives of the joker and lex luthor, with my sister. *headdesk*. she had an interesting take on it, but she refused to allow comic cannon into the discussion; had to be straight from the movie. and if you just look at the movie, you can make some interesting arguments about the joker that dont work with what i know of the comic. and i'm rambling, sorry.
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From: [identity profile] pgwfolc.livejournal.com


lol, ramble away. Sounds like a very interesting conversation.

And yes, Movieverse Joker is different than Comicverse Joker. True to the spirit, but the details differ. But then, Joker has been through a lot of different phases and periods in both mediums. Ceser Romero, Jack Nicholson, and Heath Ledger were three very different Jokers. (And what about Mark Hammill?)

And although Kevin Spacey took his cues from Gene Hackman, they still weren't quite the same Lex. And then there's John Shea. And they're all a far cry from the man in the comics who used to wear a massive suit of purple battle armor and, more recently, got himself elected president.

From: [identity profile] beansideirae.livejournal.com


i havent yet gotten to see any of the old batman movies or tv shows :( have read some comics tho. (some of which i got from you :)

but i have to say, the idea of mark hammil as the joker is very disturbing to me. i had a huge crush on him as a kid. not that the joker isnt insanely cool (hey wow i made a pun!)
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From: [identity profile] pgwfolc.livejournal.com


I can send you some of the 60s one. It's funny. Or some of the 90s animated series, which is one of the best cartoons ever. As for Hammil... you'd never know it was him if no one told you. You can't see him, of course, and his voice is completely different than what you're used to hearing from him.

Of course, you may also want to check out some of the later Wing Commander games. They introduced live action video clips for the cutscenes, and Mark Hammil plays the main character.

From: [identity profile] beansideirae.livejournal.com


i'll take any of them that you can send me, and thank you.

wing commander, hmm. ok.
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From: [identity profile] pgwfolc.livejournal.com


I've got pretty much the whole run of the Adam West show, but one pair of eps is often very much like the next. (It's also on an external drive upstairs.)

Not sure what I have handy in TAS, since I have those on DVD and don't always keep the rips.

Where should I send?

From: [identity profile] beansideirae.livejournal.com


er... carlibug156 at hotmail. what can i say, i'm tired.
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From: [identity profile] pgwfolc.livejournal.com


lol, np.

I found a file on my drive which contained TAS Volume II Disk 2. (Due to some kind of weird error in the ripping process, I tend to get one large file that has all the eps on the disk.) I shrank it down to (slightly) more manageable size, but it's way past my bedtime. Currently, it's about 10% uploaded. Let me know if it doesn't get to you. I'll try to remember to send some Adam West along, too. Let me know what you think, and I can send you more of either or both.

Actually, I have spare copies of some of the TAS DVDs. I bought the first round when they came out. Was one of the people who proved to WB that there was a market for it. And then they started releasing it in 4-disk volumes. And, like a chump huge fan, I bought Vol 1. So now I've got extras copies of Disks 1 and 2. I could send them over, if you like. (Also, you never did update your bday list...)

From: [identity profile] beansideirae.livejournal.com


i did update my list, it's here. http://beansideirae.livejournal.com/397308.html#cutid2

i got the file, wont have time to look at it till probably tomorrow night. i'll let you know what i think of it. thankies.
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From: [identity profile] pgwfolc.livejournal.com


Huh. Somehow, I completely missed that entry. Sorry about that. Thanks for pointing it out.

Enjoy the eps. I'm not sure that they're the best in the series, but they're probably a fairly typical slice. Like I said, if you like, I can send you more.

Unfortunately... it turns out I don't have Adam West, after all. I backed them up to DVD, but not, as I'd thought, to the external drive. And I just sent someone else my backup DVDs because I wasn't using them and sure it was all on the drive. *sigh* Sorry. I'd download again, but long torrents confuse my cheap router and cause it to crash.

From: [identity profile] beansideirae.livejournal.com


i started watching them yesterday. pretty fun. i'll happily take as much as you'll send me, but dont stress yourself about it. np about adam west. i'm just happy to have anything older than batman begins.
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